In this episode, we have Alex Hubitan. Alex runs a seven-figure business selling on Amazon and has a personal development program called Enlightened Millionaires. He is also the founder of Amazonienii and co-creator of Romania's best-selling online course, Amz SetUP.
We met in Medellin, Columbia and I said to myself that I need to have him on the show. He shared his journey from being a normal guy at the office to creating the life that he wants where he only works for a staggering 4 hours a month.
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Table Of Contents
- Alex's Humble Beginnings
- Meeting David Culbertson, Vipassana Retreat, and The Start of Something New
- Working For Only 4 Hours A Month
- Starting an Amazon FBA Course in Romania
- Closing Thoughts
Alex's Humble Beginnings
Aike: So I want to start off by saying that you came from very humble beginnings and now you're running… Can I mention some big-picture numbers?
Alex Huditan: Sure, sure.
Mike: You're running a seven-figure business selling on Amazon and you also have a personal development program. It's called-
Alex Huditan: The Enlightened Millionaires.
Mike: Love it. And you're from Romania.
Alex Huditan: I'm from Romania and I also teach this business model in Romania, the Amazon FBA. We have a community there. It's called Amazonienii and it has more than 3,000 people now. It's the best sold online program in my country now.
Mike: And you left a job where you're making $1,000 a month.
Alex Huditan: Oh, yeah. I was living it up, now-
Mike: In Romania, making $1,000 a month was a lot.
The feeling of emptiness inside
Alex Huditan: Yeah. The average salary in Romania is about $400 per month. So making $1,000 was actually very good. I had a stable job. I was working for HP, Hewlett Packard. I had a cubicle job. I had my favorite car at the time, an Audi. And then I was going on three vacations per year, not two vacations per year like most of my friends. I had a beautiful girlfriend. And I thought, that's it, there's nowhere else to go. My imagination stopped there, in a way. I thought I can sometimes be a manager or a super-manager but there's not much more to life than that. That's it.
Mike: Yeah. What caused you to look for something different?
Alex Huditan: I was feeling this emptiness inside. I was feeling that there must be something else, but I don't know what it is. I started this search and I had systems made at my work so I didn't have to work so much. So for the rest of the time I was just searching. I was reading blogs. I was looking on YouTube. I was listening to podcasts. Anything that I would find some inspiration, some way out. And my dream was to travel around the world. I was seeing this as an escape from my life and also this desire to see other cultures, to see other people, the novelty, the discovery, the adventure, all this, I was really passionate about this. But then I was thinking, "Oh, you need money to travel. No, this cannot be done. No, I'm here. I'm already in this job for two years. Maybe next year I will get another raise." They give you some bonuses at the end of the year and I'm like, "Oh, if I leave now I'm going to miss the bonus. Oh, shit. No, no, I can't." All these ideas were in my head.
Mike: Yeah. So you were looking for something different but then the corporate gig was giving you just enough, just enough to… Because the thing is, walking away from corporate is scary. You have fear driving you in one way and then you have the corporate gig giving you just enough to stay. Not more.
Alex Huditan: Exactly.
The 4-Hour Workweek possibilities, and organizing parties
Mike: No more. So I imagine there are a lot of people listening right now who are in the same exact position. They're experiencing discontent. They want to do more. They want more than two weeks of vacation a year and they don't see any way out. You started looking and looking for a way out. What did you discover and what showed up that gave you the courage to make the leap? And did you make a leap or was it a slow transition?
Alex Huditan: Yeah. There were a few things. One was The 4-Hour Workweek, the book by Tim Ferriss, the made quite a big impact on my life, seeing that it's possible, something else. And then I started organizing parties. A friend of mine, a colleague, came to me and he said, "Hey, my brother is a DJ. You know more people. Let's do something." We rented a place in downtown Bucharest and we had 200 people that came and they paid entrance, 10 leu. That's like two dollars. Then more people were asking, "Oh, you had this party. Can we come to the next one?" And I was like, "No. We just had one party. That's it." "Come on, please, please, let's do another one." So we did another one and 400 people showed up.
And we did another one with 600 people. So then we were thinking, "Oh, my god, we need a stadium." But actually then we failed. Then we had the party with 100 people, and so on. So now I was making kind of the same money from the parties as I was making from the job and I thought, "Okay. It's time to let the job go and I will focus only on the parties." I also took a loan from the bank before quitting because I thought about safety and I thought about being an entrepreneur and I knew to make money you need more money. I thought there should be a cushion there.
Mike: Was it helpful? Was that true?
Alex Huditan: It wasn't helpful at all. I burned through my savings in about 10 months.
Mike: My experience for myself and what I've seen with a lot of clients is, no matter how much money they have, they have to run out. Not always, but having more money in the bank does not actually dictate your end result.
The party is over
Alex Huditan: Yeah. I think once you feel like you know what you're doing, you will find the money. So, just to finish this little story, I quit and then two weeks after I quit my business partner, went to bed and never woke up. He was 29 at the time. This had quite an impact on me because I wasn't expecting this.
Mike: Is this your partner throwing the parties?
Alex Huditan: Yeah. This forced me to reevaluate my life and to see exactly what I like to do and if there's anything in my life that I don't want to do, why am I keep doing it? Because life can end anytime, as I saw this example very close to me. So, after this evaluation, I noticed that I like being the host of the parties. I like psychology and the marketing of getting people to the party, but I didn't like planning and talking with the bars about the menus and the percentages and all these things. So the party that we had the next week I just canceled it. No more. I'm not doing parties anymore. So I lost that revenue that I was getting.
Mike: And you'd already quit your job.
Alex Huditan: I had already quit my job and now I quit the parties, too. I started this journey and it was as much on the outside as looking for what I want to do as much on the inside of what is this life? Why am I here? What's the purpose of it all? I was not in a happy place. I was quite anxious and kind of, not depressed but in a quite low point. Yeah. After this I was also watching some documentaries like Zeitgeist and other similar things, also spiritual things that were not actually very helpful. Maybe they were giving me direction but I was seeing that the world is not a peaceful place, it's a bad place. Anything that I would do, it doesn't really help the whole planet. I had has very dark image of how things are and it impacted my life then, too.
Meeting David Culbertson, Vipassana Retreat, and The Start of Something New
Alex Huditan: I had a dark image of myself, too. I don't think I was loving myself so much. Then a few other things happened. I met a guy very randomly at a conference. His name is David Culbertson. I just ran into him. We bumped in shoulder to shoulder. I invited him to have lunch. I was with a group of 15 other people. And it turns out, I didn't know but it turns out he was the main speaker at that event. We stayed then together for about two hours. He is the same age as me. He was living a thoroughly different life. Had all the toys. Had a big villa in the South of Spain, had traveled the world. And he was also sharing with everybody how he was doing it and, let's say, the secrets. I was shocked because this was the first time I was seeing anybody do this. In Romania, people usually get rich by having a deal with the state.
Not so positive images of rich people. It's politicians, corrupt politicians. It's pimps. My image of rich people was you have to do something bad to get a lot of money. So, seeing this guy now, he's doing great things. He has businesses that he built himself. He's not working very much. He's not very different than me. He doesn't seem like a genius. He's just a very cool guy. He's a very good guy.
I started kind of mentorship with him that I believe influenced my thinking a lot and my relationship with money. It just gave me a new normal. I was seeing things in a different way. I had a different perspective. This was definitely a big turning point for me.
And then I also decided to go to a Vipassana retreat. This was almost at the same time with meeting David, I believe, a few weeks after that. The Vipassana was something I heard before. It's a retreat. You go for 10 days and you're not allowed to speak with anybody. You cannot bring technology. You just meditate from 4:30 in the morning until 8:30 in the afternoon, at night, let's say.
I give a lot of thanks. I'm very appreciative of the experience I had there because it taught me that the story that I tell myself about myself is not always true and I can always change it. I was telling myself that I'm the rebel. I am the guy that you don't say, "Stay here. You can't do this and that." I can do whatever I want. So I knew before going into this place there's one meditation called Adhitthana. During Adhitthana, you cannot move for one hour. It's three times per day, one hour, when you're not allowed to move. I was thinking to myself before going, "They don't tell me what to do. When they don't look at me, I'm going to move. When somebody… I'm going to move a little bit. What is this not moving?"
I get there and the guru guy, the host, the organizer, says, "Guys, for some things we have rules that we can look at you and we can see if you're doing something and we'll kick you out. Some other things, we don't know if you're cheating. But if you are planning on doing that, just remember that you will go home and know that you cheated your way through this. We're not going to give you a diploma when this is done. This is just for you. You came here for yourself and if you want to do this for yourself it's best if you follow our rules."
And I was like, "Damn. This guy can read minds." Because from the second day when they introduced this Adhitthana, until the last day, I didn't move. It was a big lesson for me. If I put my focus on something then clearly I can do it if I want. I'm still kind of the rebel but not always. You know what I mean?
This story can always be changed. If we decide at one point, I want to change, and you really want to change, you can. That was my lesson there. Also, spending 10 days in silence, your mind is playing with you. I was envisioning the future. I was seeing some things from the past. Just not staying in the present moment. That was the lesson. I learned to stay in the present moment and I also learned to get in touch with my body, to feel where fear is, to also feel where love is, to feel how expansive and expansion you feel when it's love, and how contractive and how you get smaller when it's something about fear and anxiety and stuff like this. So noticing how my body is like this I can control it better, let's say.
What It's Like Growing Up In Romania
Mike: I want to go further back in your story. So, coming from Romania, it was a communist country up until you were five years old. So this impacted the culture. It impacted the way you think. It impacted the way you were raised, all this kind of stuff. Tell us about what it was like coming from a communist country and now being somebody who has leveraged capitalism, basically the… I don't really believe in opposites too much but these are two opposing ways of operating in the world.
Alex Huditan: What I remember is having a very beautiful childhood. We, as a family, and I had things like bananas or oranges, things that other kids didn't have. We had some family friends that had a satellite dish and we would see movies, like American movies, which was something quite extraordinary or Romania because we only had one channel, where we had a lot of news about the president and what he's doing and that was kind of it. There wasn't other source of entertainment, let's say.
Also, again, with the food, I remember my grandparents standing in line for hours to get milk or to get bread. These things were scarce. These were the first years of my childhood. And then when capitalism, let's say, came it was and it still is, we still have that in Romania, a lot of people started to buy a lot of things just to impress other people. So we now have, I think, in Romania, so many supercars and so many people are wearing bling, like gold stuff. Just because they want to show people that they made it now in this capitalism. It's funny in a way.
Mike: It's an entire culture that's new to money. So it's like, "What are we going to do with this?" Well, status, show it off. I see that in young entrepreneurs, too. It's like, "Oh, I made a shit load of money. I'm going to go buy that car and show it off," and stuff
Alex Huditan: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. If you feel that's something you want to do, I would recommend you actually doing it. Not following any advice of Mike or me as like, "Guys, this is not the right way. You're just showing off." No. Go do it. See how it feels. And then just see if you want to change.
Mike: In my view, it's a stage of development. Go all the way in. If that's what you want to go for. Because let's see what you find there.
The "Show Off" Lifestyle
Alex Huditan: I remember my mentor, David, was pushing me to do different things. One of them was to go to try to have a test drive in a very expensive car. So I went to the Porsche dealership and I said, "Can I have a test drive with one of your cars?" And they said, "Yes, sure. Can we have your ID?" And I was like now they're going to know that I don't have the money for it. My god, they're going to search me in a database and they're going to see that my bank account is not good. Oh, my god.
But they just made a copy of it, like a photocopy, and the sales guy took me outside. He showed me around the car and he gave me the keys and he said, "We close at 6:00. Please bring it back before 6:00." I'm like, "Is this real?" This was a $150,000 car. It was brand new. I was like, "Oh, my god. I cannot believe." I took it. I was like, "Where can I go? Where can I go? I'm going to go to HP. That's where I'm going to go." So I went back to where I was working before. I pull up, and the feelings that I thought I would have were not the ones that were happening while I was there. I started to feel so bad.
Mike: What did you think you were to experience?
Alex Huditan: I started to experience all this glory and everybody would look at me as, "Oh, my god. The king has returned. He was saying that he will quit his job and he will be an entrepreneur and he was pushing us to do the same. But, look, now he came with the Porsche and he was right. We should all quit and we should all be entrepreneurs. Look, this is the way." This is what I thought it's going to be like. People just trying to touch me because it's like good fortune or something.
When I get there and people were looking at the car and at me, I wanted to be very small. I wanted to become an ant so nobody sees me anymore. Oh, man, it was so bad. It was like I felt guilty. Why am I doing this? The look on people's faces was not good. The thing was not good. I don't recommend anybody doing that. Or, if you do that, remember it may not feel the way you think it will.
Mike: Yeah. I have a friend, a young guy. He's in his 20s. He makes a lot of money. Big on Instagram. He had a big shift at one point and he was showing off his lifestyle. Showing off your lifestyle on Instagram, I do it. Showing off your lifestyle is good for business. People are entertained. People want to know how you do it. The thing that really occurred for him, and we had done some work together, what hit him was he was doing it to make people jealous. That's where it was coming from.
So his response from people was poor. He had a bad response because he was coming from a place of, "I'll show you. You talk shit about me. You said I couldn't do anything with my life. Look at me now. I'm driving this," whatever, whatever car. "I'm living in this house. I'm at the fucking beach every day." And then he completely shifted the energy around his posts. He goes, "No. I want to still be able to show my lifestyle but from a place of inspiring people for them."
And it's funny. Even the color, the filters he was using on Instagram, shifted. The copy shifted, what he was saying. The caption had shifted slightly. But it was all because it was coming from a different place. And then all of a sudden people started responding to him more positively. And it wasn't because he figured out a new way to do something from how to take a picture or a font or whatever. He was genuinely coming from a place of wanting to help and he has shown that bling or whatever. He was like, "Hey, you could have this, too." And that's a totally different thing. That's something I like to check in with myself on, too-
Alex Huditan: I hear you.
Working For Only 4 Hours A Month
Mike: … because people see the lifestyle and it seems unreal. Your lifestyle is unreal. You work how many hours a month?
Alex Huditan: I work less than four hours per month on my business, on my Amazon business, yeah.
Mike: Was there a hustle and grind period to get to where now you're just maintaining it four hours a month
Alex Huditan: I don't like those terms because I never felt like it was a grind. I felt like this opportunity that I found was something that inspired me and that I really want to do. It matched with my likes, like psychology and marketing, and it didn't have all the other things, like the organizing and logistics that I don't have to take care of because Amazon takes care of everything. So it was a very good match for me.
What is Amazon FBA
Mike: Can you describe to people what FBA is?
Alex Huditan: Right. So the business model in 30 seconds is you buy from China, products, from Alibaba and you sell them on Amazon. You create a private label, your own brand. So it's not a generic product, you actually put a logo on them and you develop a brand around those products.
Mike: And Amazon warehouses them.
Alex Huditan: Exactly. You ship from China to the US. Amazon has warehouses across the country, and they get delivered in most cases in 24 hours everywhere in US.
Mike: So everything is done from the laptop.
Alex Huditan: Everything is done from a laptop and you can be anywhere in the world. You don't have to touch the products. I never touched a box of my products in my life and we sold have a million units to date.
Mike: Nice, nice. What was your first product?
Alex Huditan: Oh, it's in the swimming niche. It's something swimming related because I used to be a professional swimmer and I chose something that was in that niche. Now, looking back, even with our students, we don't recommend really going after a product that is your passion. More one that makes sense financially. Now also the landscape has changed on Amazon and opportunities have changed.
Mike: It's more competitive.
Alex Huditan: It is.
Mike: More people have figured out that you can do this.
Alex Huditan: Yes, yes.
How to find products that sell well
Mike: Interesting. What do you do, you research which products have the best chance of ranking number one?
Alex Huditan: Not so much. It used to be number one. Now we try to find the products that are under the radar, that not everybody else is looking for them. So you would still get constant sales but instead of looking for one winner that is going to change your life, think about having five or those products on Amazon that are doing okay in sales. They're not killing it but you have like an octopus, more places where you're getting the sales from.
Mike: Yeah. I'm noticing that with business in general, global businesses in general. For me it used to be you crush one platform, you're good. You crush podcast, you're fine. You crush Instagram, you're fine. Don't do anything else. Now what I'm noticing is people have to see you in three places. They need to hear you on a podcast, they need to see you on Instagram and they need to see you on YouTube or Facebook. It's a multichannel thing that's going on. So this is what's happening is because more people are online and doing business, the level of complexity is going up. Which is good if you're willing to go the extra mile.
Alex Huditan: Exactly, yeah.
Mike: Tell us about, are you in contact with any of your old friends from Romania?
Alex Huditan: Oh, yeah, of course.
Mike: What do they think about you now working four hours a month? You work less than me. You're killing me. I've worked probably half the days of the year is what I tell people, because about half the time in on what people would refer to as a vacation. And the days I do work I average about five hours a day, four or five days a week. One of my things, too, is you can have a six-figure online coaching business part-time. That's how it should be done. But you're only working four hours a month but you have other projects.
Alex Huditan: That's right.
Mike: You're not someone who's only going to work for-
Alex Huditan: I was going to say that, yeah, because after you have something like this, which I call my lifestyle business, you can choose what you want to do with your time. I tried staying on the beach the whole time. It's not very rewarding after a while. I like to go back to the beach, of course. I like to stay there. I like to spend a lot of time by myself, either meditating or reflecting on my life. And this gives me the freedom to do that, instead of thinking I need to do something to get money so I can sustain my lifestyle. I can do whatever I want because the business is running by itself. This allows me to get into other projects and other businesses and other things that I feel passionate about. I usually like to keep my plate open, empty, so whenever an opportunity comes, I'll have time for it and I'll have energy for it.
Alex's Passion Projects
Mike: What kind of opportunities have you been able to take care of… Do you have passion projects?
Alex Huditan: Yeah. The courses in Romania started as a passion project.
Mike: So you have a course teaching people how to do what you're doing.
Alex Huditan: Exactly. The strategy. Exactly the Amazon thing. This one is in Romanian. Yeah, I was showing a lot of my friends how to do this. They were getting results and with a few of them, I made a deal. I said, "Okay, guys." I was talking with each of them. They were asking me, "How much do you want for this? This is a great help. You're changing my life. How much should I give you?"
"Should I give you 50% of the business?" And I was saying, "No. We're friends. Don't worry about it. When you make your first million in profits, you have to buy me a Ferrari."That was the deal I made with a few of them. Time passed, two, three years, and they went over that million, no Ferraris, man.
Mike: Those motherfuckers.
Alex Huditan: People forget. I give them a lot of credit because it was their business and they made it.
Mike: They did the work.
Alex Huditan: They did the work. I'm not saying I am responsible for that. They are responsible for that. It's just the deal that we made at the beginning, at the very beginning of this was forgotten.
Mike: Get it in writing, folks.
Alex Huditan: So this was-
Mike: You didn't get a Ferrari but how does it feel?
Alex Huditan: Oh, it feels great, man, yeah. It feels awesome. Some of them sent me messages, like, "Thank you very much. It's great. It's blah blah blah." Some of them didn't. They think I don't know about what they're doing, or something. It's odd. It's weird.
Mike: They're worried that they owe you a Ferrari now.
Alex Huditan: Maybe.
Mike: Oh, maybe if I just avoid him. They're listening to the show now. They're like, "Fuck. I've got to give him that Ferrari."
Alex Huditan: Yeah. Some of them were asking me, "Oh, man, sure, man. When I make a million dollars I'm going to get you five Ferraris, man. Blue, yellow, green, whatever color you want, man." And now we're like, "Yeah."
Mike: When you make a million dollars and you're going to buy a Ferrari, you're like… What do you think you'll do with a million dollars and what you actually want to do with a million dollars once you have it, these are different things. I've got a million dollars. Do you want to buy a Ferrari? It's like, "No way. I'd rather invest my money intelligently."
Starting an Amazon FBA Course in Romania
Alex Huditan: Right, right. So this was one of the motivations to start talking people I didn't know, that was not in my circle about the business opportunity. I was telling my friends, "I'm going to do this. I'm going to turn this into a course." And they were like, "No, no, it's a secret. It cannot get out. No, you shouldn't do this. Only we know about Amazon and Romania. We should keep it to ourselves." One of my friends, Klaus, said, "Okay. I'll do this with you." So we started promoting it and we started telling people about it. 100 people joined the first edition of the course.
Mike: Yeah. I want to point this out. In business, it's 2020. If you're trying to keep a secret, you're limiting yourself.
Alex Huditan: Oh, yeah.
Mike: Because they're going to find out anyway. It's in the collective consciousness.
Alex Huditan: Exactly.
Mike: The information exists whatever it's online already or not. Your idea is not unique. Someone else will do it. And if you step back and you choose to not execute, somebody will step right into that place that could have been you and they're going to take it. I find that the more information I share, the more I get to learn. If I start keeping secrets, I stop learning.
Alex Huditan: Same here. Same here. Yeah. There's why I'm focused on growing myself and sharing with people what I have learned so far. I think that's the way.
Alex Huditan: 100 people signed up and it was great. Then we said, "Well, let's do it again." And then 170 people signed up. And then 420 people signed up, and then 1,008 people signed up. So it was growing and people were telling their friends. The results they were having were amazing. Again, the messages I was getting of appreciation and of like, "Okay, now I can quit my job. Now I can put my kids through college. Now we're starting to travel around the world." All these stories started to fill my heart. It was amazing. It's one of the best feelings in the world to know that you were the inspiration for somebody to go and change their life for the better.
Mike: What does your family think about your lifestyle now?
Alex Huditan: Well, I have very modern parents so they understand it. But my extended family thinks I'm crazy. I think a lot of them believe this is so much out of ordinary. They think I'm either begging for money wherever I'm going or that I'm stealing money somehow. Because you cannot not work. And I kind of understand where they're coming from. They don't have examples of this in their lives. They knew that they need to go to work for nine hours. Even if they don't work, they need to stay there. They need to be in traffic for another two hours, one hour going, one hour back. And the weekend you go drinking with your buddies.
Alex Huditan: They know that's normal. That's it. If you don't know something else exists, then you're like, "No, this is it." I know because I was there. I felt the same way. That's why I understand my family and my friends back in Romania that think this is impossible. It probably is. If you believe it's impossible, it is. If you see examples of being possible then you start believing it's possible and maybe you want to do that, too.
Mike: That's why Alex and I are here. We're here to show you the possibility.
Alex Huditan: Yes.
Mike: Here to show you the possibility. Do you work with many Americans? Because that's my primary listener base.
Alex Huditan: Well, for the Amazon course, no, because it's in Romanian. We have people-
Mike: You've got to learn Romanian, folks. Or Google Translate.
Alex Huditan: But not I'm building the Enlightened Millionaires that I mentioned before. It's a program in English. I'm doing it with my mentor, David. It's a lot of things, most of the things that I went through myself. So I was the guinea pig. Actually, David was the first guinea pig. He did this in his life. And then I was the second one. And now we're sharing this with the world because not only the strategy… I saw this in the course that we're doing in Romania. It's not only the strategy that you need because we give the same information to a lot of people and some go out and do things and change their lives and some of them don't do anything or they run into roadblocks and they stay there. They're like, "Okay. That's it. I tried. No, no, this doesn't work. This isn't for me."
And it's the same information, just people do different things with it. So we noticed that there's something before it, the inside job. How you perceive the world, how you perceive yourself, how you feel that connection with yourself and with the world and what impact you want to have in the world. Yeah.
Mike: When is this program going to release?
Alex Huditan: Oh, that's a good question. We don't have a date yet, so anybody that wants to know more can go to enlightenedmillionaires.com. It's actually enlightened-millionaires.com. We have a waiting list and they'll know firsthand when we release it. Because we had two editions of this and 170 people went through the program, had amazing results, but we also now are trying to figure out how to get this out there, how to get this in the world, how more people can find out about us.
A grandfather doing Amazon FBA
Mike: I like to point that out because there's so many people who are in their late 20s, early 30s, and like, "Oh, I've already invested in school and I've been in this job for so long." It's like, "No. You can change at any time." I'm sure you've got a lot of clients, a lot of clients are 18, 19 years old and you have some that are in their 40s and 50s. Is that accurate?
Alex Huditan: Yeah. We had a gentleman that was in his 70s-
Alex Huditan: … in the Amazon course. He was so nice. He was telling us about his grandkids and now he can spend more time with them. It was such a touching story, man. At 70… computers, anything about digital. But he had this desire and he wanted to change his life, so he started making sales on Amazon. He had a product. He was making a lot of money for Romania. Like you said, there is no age limit and there is no timing, unless you decide it's your time.
Mike: So 70's the oldest.
Alex Huditan: Yeah.
Mike: What's the youngest?
Alex Huditan: 18, of course.
Alex Huditan: Yeah.
Mike: So what? Get out of school…
Alex Huditan: Got out of school. Actually, he was still in school and he was asking us, "Can I start this? Do I need my parents' approval?" And we were like, "Hey, we don't even know what to do with this situation. Okay. Yes, let's do it. Sure." We looked it up. It wasn't illegal so he started, and at 21 he's now making hundreds of thousands of dollars per year with Amazon.
Alex Huditan: Yeah.
Mike: What do you tell somebody who, they're in a job or they're getting out of school. They don't know what they want to do. They're in a job they're dissatisfied with, but they're scared to make a move and they don't know what to do next.
Alex Huditan: While I was working at HP I was telling everybody, "Come on, guys, let's get out of here. We need to go and be entrepreneur. We need to be freelancers. Anything but not work in a corporate job. It's awful. It's terrible." But I realized after that it was not just me seeing myself in them as a mirror.
Mike: You were talking to you.
Alex Huditan: I was talking with me. I wanted a way out. I wanted that thing. So I like to tell people now to look inside and see what they really want to do and not try to skip steps. Like don't try to change or people's lives, just make sure your glass is full and, from that place, you can help others in a different way. Don't try to be like, "Oh, yes, I'm going to go and save these people from their job because they're taken advantage of."
Yeah, but where are you? How are you feeling? Do you have joy in your life? Do you have happiness? Do the things that you're doing make you happy? Or are you coming from a place of neediness? You're going to do that because, "Yes, nobody's helping them but I need to do that. Yes, please, do that. Change, change." And you're forcing somebody or something that is not their time yet to change.
I believe a lot in timing. So if you feel, again, to the feeling of, man, I want to change, then change. And notice your voice in your head. If it's not aligned, if you're saying today you're going to change and tomorrow you're slipping off, it's okay, because we're human. I don't know anybody that doesn't make mistakes. Just know and speak with yourself that, "Come on. It's okay, man. Come on. You can do this. It's okay. We all do mistakes." Just keep reminding yourself why you wanted to change in the first place. "Oh, I want to travel the world. Oh, yeah, that's right. I can do this. I can do this." And then keep walking the path, keep going on that path instead of the old one. That's it.
Mike: Excellent. Thanks for joining us today. Where can people find more of your stuff?
Alex Huditan: Thank you. Thank you, Mike, for the invitation. Well, like I said, enlightened-millionaires.com is our program.
Mike: Thanks for joining us today.
Alex Huditan: Thank you very much, again. Thank you. That was great. Thank you.